Comments on: Hundreds turn out for Kennedy one year vigil http://goqnotes.com/244/hundreds-turn-out-for-kennedy-one-year-vigil/ north carolina south carolina lgbt arts entertainment news views Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:33:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Gay Lee Forward http://goqnotes.com/244/hundreds-turn-out-for-kennedy-one-year-vigil/comment-page-1/#comment-178 Gay Lee Forward Sun, 25 May 2008 19:10:34 +0000 http://www.q-notes.com/?p=244#comment-178 David Gillespie said: "And even if the assailant used a perceived anti-gay slur, so what. I use them occasionally myself but intend no hate-crime by it." --- The above says it all. No point in taking this any further. David Gillespie said:

“And even if the assailant used a perceived anti-gay slur, so what. I use them occasionally myself but intend no hate-crime by it.”

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The above says it all. No point in taking this any further.

]]> By: Gloria Williams http://goqnotes.com/244/hundreds-turn-out-for-kennedy-one-year-vigil/comment-page-1/#comment-173 Gloria Williams Sat, 24 May 2008 11:26:10 +0000 http://www.q-notes.com/?p=244#comment-173 So do you think there IS such a thing as a hate crime against a person from the "gay community" and if so, exactly what would have to occur for you to accept it as such? So do you think there IS such a thing as a hate crime against a person from the “gay community” and if so, exactly what would have to occur for you to accept it as such?

]]> By: David Gillespie http://goqnotes.com/244/hundreds-turn-out-for-kennedy-one-year-vigil/comment-page-1/#comment-170 David Gillespie Thu, 22 May 2008 20:48:44 +0000 http://www.q-notes.com/?p=244#comment-170 Actually, GLF, the resolution was passed in Greenville County, not the City. Much like the relationship between Asheville and Buncombe County, so is the relationship between Greenville the City and Greenville County. I'm not sure how much credibility those "eyewitnesses" carried with investigating officers, who found no reason to call this a " anti-gay hate crime." And even if the assailant used a perceived anti-gay slur, so what. I use them occasionally myself but intend no hate-crime by it. And besides, FBI statistics clearly indicate that having "hate crime" categories in terms of enhanced punishments do not reduce the level of occurances. Hate is a bad thing, no doubt, regardless of who it is directed against and one could argue that any violent crime could be classified as a hate crime. My only concern is when the "gay community" or "gay press" start shouting "hate crime" (most often in an attempt at fund raising for some cause) without ascertaining for certain if there was one or not. Actually, GLF, the resolution was passed in Greenville County, not the City. Much like the relationship between Asheville and Buncombe County, so is the relationship between Greenville the City and Greenville County.

I’m not sure how much credibility those “eyewitnesses” carried with investigating officers, who found no reason to call this a ” anti-gay hate crime.” And even if the assailant used a perceived anti-gay slur, so what. I use them occasionally myself but intend no hate-crime by it. And besides, FBI statistics clearly indicate that having “hate crime” categories in terms of enhanced punishments do not reduce the level of occurances. Hate is a bad thing, no doubt, regardless of who it is directed against and one could argue that any violent crime could be classified as a hate crime. My only concern is when the “gay community” or “gay press” start shouting “hate crime” (most often in an attempt at fund raising for some cause) without ascertaining for certain if there was one or not.

]]> By: Gay Lee Forward http://goqnotes.com/244/hundreds-turn-out-for-kennedy-one-year-vigil/comment-page-1/#comment-160 Gay Lee Forward Wed, 21 May 2008 22:35:05 +0000 http://www.q-notes.com/?p=244#comment-160 Sorry, Charlie. Outside of homophobic Greenville — i.e., the place where elected officials pass non-binding resolutions against gays and lesbians simply to demonstrate their hatred — people see this crime for what it is. Eyewitnesses said Moller used an anti-gay slur during the attack — sorry, CASE F'n CLOSED! You can argue that this wasn't a homophobic murder, because I think there probably was no intent to kill on the part of the assailant. HOWEVER this was without a doubt an anti-gay HATE CRIME! Sorry, Charlie. Outside of homophobic Greenville — i.e., the place where elected officials pass non-binding resolutions against gays and lesbians simply to demonstrate their hatred — people see this crime for what it is. Eyewitnesses said Moller used an anti-gay slur during the attack — sorry, CASE F’n CLOSED! You can argue that this wasn’t a homophobic murder, because I think there probably was no intent to kill on the part of the assailant. HOWEVER this was without a doubt an anti-gay HATE CRIME!

]]> By: David Gillespie http://goqnotes.com/244/hundreds-turn-out-for-kennedy-one-year-vigil/comment-page-1/#comment-159 David Gillespie Wed, 21 May 2008 18:40:32 +0000 http://www.q-notes.com/?p=244#comment-159 Good journalism? Maybe not. States as fact that which has not been proven (i.e., Kennedy's accidental death as a anti-gay hate crime). FBI and local authorities concluded it was not. A tragic death, yes; a anti-gay hate crime, probably not. Journalism is supposed to be about the facts, and when making such statements as above, objective and fair. Good journalism? Maybe not. States as fact that which has not been proven (i.e., Kennedy’s accidental death as a anti-gay hate crime). FBI and local authorities concluded it was not. A tragic death, yes; a anti-gay hate crime, probably not. Journalism is supposed to be about the facts, and when making such statements as above, objective and fair.

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